Once again a school in California rules

Question 1, What lies?

Question 2, What myths?

God shed his grace on thee. God is a myth. The lie is that he in any way, shape or form, loves you. That is arrogant, self-centered and ridiculous. Of course, there are those that feel that life isn't worth living if they can't believe in the supernatural, but eventually they will evolve to a higher understanding as well.

And I thought you were talking about what was said in the clip.

Aparrently you didn't watch it. Read the poster.

Everything on the poster is found in our National Motto, Pledge of Allegiance, American the Beautiful, and so forth. What is the problem? Other then your Disbelieve and wanting to spread it around to everyone. It is said that about 86% of americans believe in God in one form or another and only 14% don't. Wht should the 86% bow to the 14%?

Yes DMG. We don't do things by percentages in this country or women would never have been allowed to vote and George Bush would never have been President. If people want to practice religion, fine. But it doesn't belong in our publicly-funded schools.

This was not about religion, it is about history so I guess history has no place in our publicly-funded schools.

God isn't 'our' history. That is a lame extraction.

Religion is part of our history.

And was explicitly excluded from politics.

As it should be!! But can not be removed from history even though there are those who are trying by removing it from the history books.

Religion is an intricate part of human history. That means ALL religions. But it doesn't belong in our government, schools or other publicly funded places.

Religion does not need to be taught in our government, schools or other publicly funded places.
History does. Correct history.

Tigger, you are right, religon does not need to be taught in schools, just respected.
Dmg, you are right history should be accurate. Sorry tigger but the truth is that the bible is the oldest piece of recorded history and historians have proved the events in it to be true.

Im going to say a prayer for you Tigger.

BF. Historians have proved the stories in the bible to be consistent -- not necessarily true. For example, there is no proof of the burning bush incident. Only one man's story. You can CHOOSE to believe it or not.

What for Brian? Will it help?

You can choose to believe anything you want tigger. I can choose not to believe you exist. I've never seen you, never heard your voice, you are just words on a computer screen as far as I know. That doesn't make you any less real but I can choose to believe whatever I want.. Right?

Absolutely. The difference is you COULD prove I exist if you visited. There is no absolute proof God exists or doesn't exist, therefore you must CHOOSE to believe in the supernatural. Which is totally fine! It is your (or anyone else's) right to do so! But I choose to live a life unencumbered from belief in the supernatural. But please do yourself a favor and don't be swayed by what someone else says about 'proof'. If the Bible offered proof of anything, we wouldn't be having this debate would we?

In other words, man created God in his own image, not the other way around.

Let me ask you something then. How do you define proof? And in this case I'm only talking about history. You weren't around 100 years ago so how do you prove anything that happened before you were born?

OK. How about carbon dating? That is a scientific proof. And it proved that the earth is more than 6,000 years old, as an entire segment of believes feels. I believe in science. But I'm not the one seeking proof here. I only claimed that you had no proof and therefore had to CHOOSE to believe. Which I also said, is completely within your rights and I would never want to take it away from you. I CHOOSE not to believe. It's that simple.

it's funny. I have a very religious friend who is always trying to convince me that the odds of mankind evolving are so astronomical that no thinking man could ever believe that it could actually happen. The odds are just too great. Yet he believes with absolute certainty that a magic man in the sky was always there, appeared from nothing and created everything and loves us. To me, the latter is far less likely to be the truth, no matter how thin the odds. It is a choice.

Relax. My point was simply that you read history, science and all the good stuff from a book, you hear it on tv. You have no physical proof in your hands that says YES this is true. We all choose to believe in people who tell us it is true. You just choose the popular choice. My choice is really no different than yours: the choice to believe someone or something that tells you it is true.